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Mum: You can't just stay up and talk to people on the other side of the world all night, it's utter madness!
Me: Madness.... *turns around in her chair* THIS. IS. LJ!
Mum: ... what.
Me: Just go to bed mum.

Of course, there's the obligitory load of people from America that I've become rather close with (holla!), and while I have no idea if they consider me a friend in return, I've become quite chummy with people in Mexico, Australia, New Zealand, Finland, Canada, France, Germany and Japan.

On the matter of whether I'll ever meet them, well, we're all so spread out and there's so many I'll probably never be able to, but if there was some kind of magical event wherein we did all meet, it'd be awesome.

Though fuck timezones man. They suck a big meaty one, geez. GMT means that I'm either keeping other people up (something I feel horrifically guilty about) or staying up late for everyone else (West Coast America time zones are my enemy. Though I love everyone on them.)

That's the issue though; if you've never met someone face to face, can you really say you're friends? I'd like to think so, but what are your opinions on the matter, guys?

Ah, I don't care, I love you all regardless. I count it as friendship even if it's one-sided.

Hola xD?

Date: 2010-04-25 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millesettecento.livejournal.com
I think a friendship doesn't need to be a face to face thing. I mean, I met my best friend through an online forum and somehow though the years of getting to know each other we ended up living near each other (8 hours away is near enough)

And yes, Fuck you, you damned time-zones. They are one of the biggest PITA in the internet >:/

Re: Hola xD?

Date: 2010-04-25 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millesettecento.livejournal.com
Uh, uh, typos, fuck you typos D;<
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
Actually the holla thing is something the girls at the summer camp I went to in America used to do so idk. >>

Wow, you ended up living near each other? I beg to differ, 8 hours away = driving from South of England to Scotland. Madness!

*shakes fist* daaaaamn timezoooooones! It's night here and I'm pretty sure the sun's gone to where you are.
From: [identity profile] millesettecento.livejournal.com
Oh! I never really liked those things >;/

Yeah, my family moved a lot. Well, driving from Sinaloa to Jalisco(Both Mexican States) takes nearly 8 hours while driving from Sinaloa to Arizona takes 9

Oh yes damned things. I'm about to eat lunch xP.

Date: 2010-04-25 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
Yeah, it was a bad experience for me too. I hated America for about a year afterwards but he and I are cool now. *brofist with Al*

Sounds like a bundle of fun. Isn't Arizona in the US? Your friend moved to Mexico?

That is an extremely mind boggling thing. And in Japan, everyone's just waking up... Tomorrow! It's Monday in Japan, woah.

Date: 2010-04-25 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millesettecento.livejournal.com
I still have issues with him.. *glares at him*

Not really, that meant no friends and changing schools. It is, but I used to live in there, now I live in Sinaloa -Stupidly enough, the land of the tomatoes-, my friend have always lived in Jalisco

Sure it is, trying to congratulate a friend in the right day becomes a hard task.

Date: 2010-04-25 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
America: why does everyone haaaaate meeeee Iggy it's all your fault I've inherited your ability to fuck up international relations!
England: *secretly so smug about this*


*pets* don't worry, the interwebs is here for you~!! Ah riiight, I thought my geography hadn't gone that awry. Haha land of tomatoes. Cute.

That, or you have an excuse if you forget and are late by a day! 8D

Date: 2010-04-25 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millesettecento.livejournal.com
*giggles* Gringos are fun to mess with

Gotta love it ♥ Worry not, your geography is just fine. There are tomatoes sculptures everywhere in the capital *which is where I live*

But what if I forgot and suddenly it isn't just a day late but two?! D8

Uuh... This has nothing to do with anything above but do you happen to remember in which part of FT is the 'Geographical Correctness' situation? D:

Date: 2010-04-25 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
I've seen that word around a lot; does gringo just mean American? Like how we Brits use the term "Yanks"?

Tomato sculptures. Oh Antonio, you did pass along your genetics after all!

Then... then your computer died! Or something broke... or something. MAKE IT UP. 8D

You mean where America sat on Mexico and proclaimed it geographically correct and Canada suffocated America with Kumajiro and said "now we're correct"? That's part 17 Right here~!

Date: 2010-04-25 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millesettecento.livejournal.com
Yep! [Here comes random fact!] When you ask the American tourists to say 'Pink-Cheese Green-Ghosts' it sound like 'Pinchis Gringos' Pinchis being the plural of 'Pinchi' that means cook assistant but is also -and most commonly used as- a swear word.

You're asking me to lie! You are a bad influence on me!! D8!! But that's okay ♥

Yeess, Thank you. I know that if I have started to look through the entries for that part I would end up drawing everything xx.

Date: 2010-04-25 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
Well of all the random name origins in the world. XDDDD How offensive is it really? Because I wanna know if I can use it in Family Ties.

I'm a terrible influence on everyone, darling. <3 ilu

makakjdshgkfs drawings? Eeeeee~ I tried to draw that scene but my anatomy faaaaails so hardcore orz.

Date: 2010-04-26 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millesettecento.livejournal.com
Oh well it depends of the context and the intonation. But it normally isn't very offensive.... I guess it may be very offensive for an American that understands spanish.

Oh, you rotten apple, ilu too ♥

Yes! drawiiings~ I was trying to draw Cymru spitting fire but until I figure how to draw said fire I'll draw other things. And my version of that scene is a little bit different but anyway~

Date: 2010-04-26 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
I suppose so. I probably won't use it unless I need Al to be proper insulter (because he would be, since he's Al.)

Spoiling a whole bunch of y'all. ♥♥♥

Askjlsjfljk bb Cymru spitting fire?! aaaaaaaahhh <3 Also I know I said it already but that other drawing is SO CUTE. SO VERY CUTE.

Date: 2010-04-27 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millesettecento.livejournal.com
Oh fuck. Now I have another thing against America >;/



Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees, I can't get it out of my mind, when I first read it I was like "Oh! Look he spits fire..... OH WAIT! HE SPITS FIRE!" and five minutes later I was doodling. Same happened with England and his comment about St. George...

Date: 2010-04-25 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pulitz.livejournal.com
See, I thought now that I already admitted to being your friendly long-term lurker from next door following your journal, I thought I could drop by and offer my view on things. I hope you don't mind. :)

First of all, the "This is Sparta" pun made me smile. Still chuckling as we, well, 'speak', actually.

I understand and see where people are coming from claiming friends met over the Internet are not real friends per se and that only those you have become acquainted with in real life count, therefore. But I always felt that was an excuse not holding much water. Over the course of ten years, I have met such wonderful people through the Internet I wouldn't have had the slightest chance to meet in RL. Nor would I have been as open, honest and straightforward with them then because I just can't entrust people with personal issues when I have to make eye contact. Uptight as hell in that regard.

Likewise, I don't think you really have to meet someone face to face before you may consider him/her a friend. Friends, to me, are people I feel connected to and the amount of friends in RL I feel connected to compared to the amount of 'online' friends is nigh on zero. And considering each day that passed brought us yet again a little step further into the globalizing networking world we have long since become, frowning upon people meeting and making friends online is becoming an increasingly outdated attitude.

Still, I see where all the scepticism is coming from. It's true, yes, you can never be certain the person you are talking with is really the person he/she makes you believe to be. But that's not a phenomenon limited exclusively to the Internet; people can be double-faced everywhere you go be it cyberspace or the world stretching out in front of your lawn.

tl;dr: I think friends are those you view as such and it doesn't matter whether you will ever meet them in person or not. I like to think friendship is immaterial and not tied to physical restrictions.

Date: 2010-04-25 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
Holy shit that icon so true!

There are never enough "this is Sparta" jokes. Ever.

I am so with you on the "can't entrust people with personal issues" once we're face to face, and especially not in public. Typing it out is so much easier, and removes the obstacle of looking like an utter fool when you get your words in a twist (I am sooooo much less eloquent IRL than how I type). Besides which, when you're on the internet you find people that share interests and it's great, because England's otaku population is rather pathetic actually.

My mum's always saying they don't count as real friends because I've never met them in real life. But so what? I think the internet is quite similar to meeting people IRL; you end up with having circles of friends, friends you only meet on certain sites, friends you talk to about one thing or another. Being two-faced does not only apply to the world of Anon.

Peeps need to catch up with the times; I have a friend that married someone she met over the interwebs. They've got their first child and they're so in love it makes my teeth rot when I'm in close proximity to them.

Date: 2010-04-26 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pulitz.livejournal.com
I bet Pluto must feel super depressed lately. Thank you!

Ah, public makes makes it so much more awkward. I completely agree; typing is easier. Plus, as you type you are kind of bound to look at what you write and if you realise the tone's getting too sharp or whatever you still got the chance to cut it back a little. Ideally, anyway. But once something slipped out of your mouth there's no backspace to hit. It's out for good. And, yes, it's so easy to make a fool out of yourself especially when nervous or in a heated discussion etc. (You're not alone. I also fail at real speech.) Agreed! You don't... well, mostly anyway you don't have to fish for common ground first as it have been your shared interests that brought you together first. Another major advantage.

It's always easy to frown upon something you either have not experienced yourself or, if you did, have bad experiences with. Your comparison hits the mark, though. Even in RL there are various circles in which we socialise in various ways, so.

They did? So happy for them, it's cute. :)

Date: 2010-04-25 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuulensisko.livejournal.com


Cool Writer's Block. :D Oh man, I have so many. SO MANY. I tend to be all nervous about calling people friends, though. It takes like a year at least to get me out of my shell properly. =3=;; Plus in your case I still kinda feel like I'm just a creepy stalker who won't leave you alone. *looms*

Date: 2010-04-25 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
You're the Russia to my Lithuania bb <3

Nahh, just kidding. ilu really. Don't leave me I'll be so disorganised if you dooooo ;o;

Date: 2010-04-25 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuulensisko.livejournal.com
Kolkolkolkolkol... nah, can't do it. Might be more like Sweden. To your... wait this is sounding kinda weird. lol, have I mentioned that I have a Swedish friend who occationally calls me her wife now. It's like the one thing she knows about Hetalia. xD

Okay then, hun. =3=b

Date: 2010-04-25 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
Sweden to my Finland? Lol that's weird, since you're Finnish. Umm. Er. Idk. *gives up* The Tuulensisko to my Hellzabeth. XDDDDD Seriously? That is so epic I don't even

Lol now look who's the clingy stalker?

Date: 2010-04-26 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuulensisko.livejournal.com
xD Right. Oh yeah and you can call me Tuul for short. o/ Tuulensisko is a bit long and probably hard to remember if you don't speak Finnish. Yes, seriosly. xD And I know, it amuses the hell out of me. Just wait for us to actually get married or something (we could in Sweden, actually :D not Finland though 'cause Finland sucks like that)

Pfft. I don't see much actual stalking though. Not that there's anything to stalk. *never updates nowadays orz*

Date: 2010-04-26 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
I go by either Hellz or Pidge. Preferably Pidge though. <3 One day, wedding bells with chime for you two. Can I come to the wedding? 8D

Exactly. I'm just that good.

Date: 2010-04-26 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuulensisko.livejournal.com
Alrighty. Pidge it is. :3 Pfft, okay, you can. 8)

*is afraid now*

... Oh yeah, referring to the Falkland Islands thingy; you have seen this, right? (Pretty much everybody has, I know, just checking 'cause if someone hasn't seen it yet they absolutely have to.)

Date: 2010-04-26 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
Yay! I'll wear my prettiest pink dress~<3!

Good, you have survival instincts.

Oh god I love Eddie Izzard. SO HARDCORE. Stategic sheep purposes. Oh Falklands.

Don't be too disappointed..(?)

Date: 2010-04-26 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millesettecento.livejournal.com
*cough cough* Brand new comment for the greatFAILURE Geographical Correctness, The North AMERICAn way Fuck yes.

I shall make a post for 'Family Ties' inspired things D8
Now I want to draw Scotland on England's shoulders with Wales supporting himself in England's shoulder and knee plus Northern Ireland hanging from a rope because there's no way Ireland is going to be his stepping stool, of course in a non-chibified/child-like way and less sketchy.......

Oh! Please, somebody stop me.

Re: Don't be too disappointed..(?)

Date: 2010-04-26 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
akldjfgldfkh IT'S PERFEEEEECT

Awww they all look so adorable and squishy and and and I'M SORRY CANADA I'M GOING TO HAVE TO STEAL KUMAJIRO.

Oh god how much stuff have you drawn?! o.o;;

That. Would be. Amazing. LOL YES. YESSSSSS.

*is definitely not going to stop you*

EH

Date: 2010-04-26 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millesettecento.livejournal.com
jkyuayshj ♥

And I totally didn't meant for them to look that way but ugh. Don't worry you can have Kumajirō anytime, I'm sure Canada doesn't mind....

EH, as for properly drawn, not so much, I've been sketching lots of things thought.

Oh, damn. Okay.... I'd probably use candesceres' designs, I'll ask for permission first~

Date: 2010-04-26 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellethill.livejournal.com
if you've never met someone face to face, can you really say you're friends?

In short? Oh yes, most definitely! If you want to take it the other way around, think of the many people you must have met face to face and /not/ become friends with :D

And yes. Fuck timezones. (*points at icon*)

Furthermore. This. is. LJ! *dies*

Date: 2010-04-26 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
High five for people on the other side of the world being besties!

*smashes timezones with a hammer, creates blackhole*

TONIGHT. WE DINE. IN MYSPACE! (aka hell)

Date: 2010-04-26 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] candesceres.livejournal.com
Timezones slay me. But hay, you're in England, that's probably the closest to a good one as I'm going to get overseas orz. \o/

Can I has this magical event in which we all meet up? Because that would be so awesome. ;3;

Ah...I'm a bit skeptical of the whole "considering online people" friends though. I mean, unless you get to know each other pretty well they're just another faceless internet guy. And how many of those people would actually miss you if you were to disappear for a time? But that being said, I've met some pretty awesome people on LJ who I would love to meet in real life, and I hope to do so one day, when I save up enough money to travel. \o/

You can totally be the England to my Portugal though. Husbando. <3

Date: 2010-04-26 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
Unless you talk to someone in NZ? Aww, I feel kind of flattered actually. <3

I wish it would happen. D8 Maybe with the advent of teleporters.

Oh yeah, I do mean the ones you get to know properly, not just those you randomly chat to. I'd never have enough money to travel to all the people I've met, but it'd be so cool to.

Awww that's so sweet of you. My sister read that over my shoulder and was like "what" and I just shooed her off, but out of context it does seem kind of funny. ilu2 <3

Wait does that mean you have a brother I have to beat up?

Date: 2010-04-26 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] candesceres.livejournal.com
lol I never see any NZ'ders around this part. They're all hiding orz.

I'm going to be tight, like Scotland, and put money aside for a rainy day until I have enough to visit the world lol. \o/

It totally makes sense okay. Even out of context people should remember their romance haha. ...And well, I have a sister. But she's not in need of beating up at the moment haha.

Date: 2010-04-26 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellzabeth.livejournal.com
Aww sadface. I wonder why?

Lol good luck with that honey. Ffff the idea of Scotty being a total hoarder is so amusing I can't even... and then he goes shopping with France and spends all his money on him. >>

Funny thing is that in England nobody does. At all. People are like "Portugal what". Call me when you need me bb. *shines her pipe in preparation*

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